Concluding part of Mr Atsuo Nakamura’s interview with Mr Chong-hwa Pak
The first part of the interview is here:
Nakamura: Mr. Pak, when did you actually witness, with your own eyes, the return ceremony, the so-called pikareum?
Pak: In 1954 the Unification Church was founded in Seoul. At that time I was living together with Moon and the Six Marys – who had received “the return” – and other founding members.
Nakamura: Together with married women?
Pak: Yes. When they are brainwashed by Moon’s “Principle” they do not like to have sex with their husbands anymore. This is because one of the things Moon teaches is “You must not sleep with your husband who is on Satan’s side.” We all lived in the church making bromide photographs [to sell], which was the main economic activity of the church in those days, or we did other work. The Marys and some male followers did “the return” work to increase the number of owners of pure blood.
Myung-hee Kim (right) with a friend cutting up the bromide photographs which the church sold in the 1950s.
Nakamura: Did you see Moon doing sexual intercourse for that?
Pak: Yes, I often watched him do it – and I also heard the chuckling and cackling of the women I knew to be in Moon’s room. I am ashamed that I, together with them, participated in such a thing. I have to admit that I did it. I did “the return” with a woman called Shin-hee Eu [ 劉信姫 ]. It was according to the teachings of Moon’s “Principle.” Later Moon advocated that she do “the return” with the male follower Deuk-jin Kim [ 金徳振 ]. [Deuk-jin Kim wrote many of the Unification Church ‘Holy Songs.’] Mr. Kim then did “the return” with other female followers. The chain of doing “the return” spread from one after another. I knew of 70 people who were in the chain.
Nakamura: So in that way the sex chain expanded like a kind of relay.
Pak: Yes, at that time I firmly believed it was the sacred mission of this relay to cleanse the blood of humanity.
Nakamura: When you were doing the “the return” did you wear special clothes or make solemn ceremonies?
Pak: There was nothing like that. Moon asked us to participate and it was just… In retrospect it was like an immoral party.
Nakamura: Looking at it from a psychological point of view, do you think the women had some resistance to what Moon was doing? Although Confucian morality is very strict in Korea, I think it is our national character to think that adultery is a crime.
Pak: That is certainly so, but I did not think about such things at that time. The spirit was strange. For the women who believed there was no such resistance. The situation was that some women just flung themselves at Moon.
“While I was sleeping I heard a panting voice next to me.”
Nakamura: Mr. Pak, in your book ‘The Tragedy of the Six Marys’ [which is about to be published], out of consideration you have given pseudonyms to some of the people in your book. For others you have used their real names. You have written about the university student, Young-hee Kim [ 金永姫 ]. [Her real name was Myung-hee Kim 金明姫.] She was a virgin before she met Moon.
Pak: Her case was a miserable one. She was an excellent student at the prestigious Yonsei University in Seoul. When the university president, who was American, was about to return home, he gave her a scholarship for one year of university tuition. However, her aunt was a follower of Moon and she embezzled the money and gave it all to him. So Myung-hee Kim went to the Unification Church to protest, and when she was there she heard some of Moon’s “Principle” lectures.
Nakamura: And the tragedy began from there.
Pak: Yes. That night, after the lectures were over, we all went to bed. The five married women who had physical relationships with Moon were on one side. Kim Myung-hee was sleeping at the far side of the room, the furthest away from Moon. I fell asleep, but was suddenly awakened by a panting voice, and gasps and screams coming from Kim who was on Moon’s bedding. Indeed I was very surprised at this. I do not know if she was invited over to Moon or what happened. I just earnestly pretended to be asleep.
Nakamura: And did Kim become pregnant?
Pak: Yes, she became pregnant with Moon’s child. There was also a male student attending Yonsei University. To keep himself out of trouble, Moon allowed the two of them to stow away [on a fishing boat] to Japan. He promised to send them money, but that was just for show. Moon just threw them both away. Without any money, such as remittances from Moon, they suffered in poverty. Myung-hee Kim gave birth to the child in the room of a small apartment. They could not go to the hospital because they were stowaways. The young man helped Myung-hee Kim to give birth. Neither of them knew what they should be doing. He cut the umbilical cord with his teeth. [Hee-jin Moon was born on August 17, 1955.]
Hee-jin Moon with Hak Ja Han. He had been taken away from his mother, Myung-hee Kim.
Nakamura: In addition to her, did Moon do the “the return” [pikareum] with other virgins?
Pak: Yes, there were a lot. When Moon completed the mission of restoring the first Six Marys through pikareum, then he could pick one virgin to marry. The virgin represented Eve. He would then hold “The Marriage of the Lamb” (a formal marriage) with the virgin Eve. Moon claimed he would then be the Lord of the Second Advent. Together with his bride, they would be the “True Father” and the “True Mother.” However Moon demanded to have relationships with some virgins. Thus a woman called Lee Seong-wha (a pseudonym) who was a devoted follower had her virginity taken by Moon and became pregnant. Lee Sun-cheol (also a pseudonym), her younger sister, was also robbed of her virginity and became pregnant.
■ There is no doubt that Mr. Pak Chong-hwa was one of the founding members of the Unification Church, said Professor Asami Sadao of Tohoku Gakuin University, who is familiar with the problem of the Unification Church. So pikareum was done very early on [in the history of the Unification Church]. It is demonstrated by the example of Sun Myung Moon with the female university student which happened right next to Mr. Pak. He held his breath while he observed what was going on. It may be said that many researchers have investigated and produced documents and articles, but nothing so far has been proven by a witness account so clearly as by Mr. Pak’s vivid testimony.
■ The Unification Church refutes Mr. Chong-hwa Pak’s “pikareum” exposure in this way:
“It is entirely unfounded and the contents are forged. The founder of the Unification Church was Sun Myung Moon alone. Mr. Pak’s name is linked to the Unification Church of Korea in certain places, but he is not the founder. Opponents have intentionally twisted the teachings around to claim there is a “pikareum” ceremony. Mr. Pak is trying to put his own sin on to Rev Moon.” (UC Public Relations Department.)
These things can only now be told because we have the government of Kim Yong-sam
Nakamura: Mr. Pak’s book is based on his diaries and notes from 30 years ago. He has kept his continuous manuscripts from that time. He has an enormous quantity of handwritten notes: 6000 sheets of paper, each filled with about 200 characters. However, Mr. Pak could not make this information public during the previous administration because it was deeply tied to the Unification Church in the interests of anti-communism and other things.
Pak: That is true. We now have a moderate government and the president is a Christian elder. So now if I publicize these facts I won’t be killed. Even if I think that tomorrow I might die, I hope this book can open the eyes of Unification Church followers.
Nakamura: Would you like to express a heartfelt tribute for Mr. Pak’s courage.
The first part of the interview:
The full Japanese text:
Myung-hee Kim: How could Moon forget?
Moon’s third wife Myung-hee Kim in South Korea
Moon took Hee-jin away from his mother when he was about 5
A jeep for Moon and nothing for Myung-hee Kim
“The entire movement was built on a lie” Annie Choi
Deuk-jin Kim is interviewed together with Moon’s first wife