February 2012
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Anonymous asked: Seeing isn't believing, BELIEVING IS SEEING. Sometimes people (such as Rev. Moon) does things that may SEEM unrighteous and unholy, but you'd be surprised to the fact that God works in strange ways. We shall not doubt our Lord or question His actions, because He does everything for a REASON. We have to trust God, even if it can be difficult. Some of the things Rev. Moon does may seem...
January 2012
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Something to think about.
Why does a mediator between the two worlds (where interacting with spirit person is a normal way of life from the principle perspective) need to take advice from other people who give messages from the spirit world. If the spirit world message is from Sun Myung Moon’s children - why aren’t they talking to him directly. I will repeat that: “If the message is from his children...
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Homosexuality and the Unification Church
As a child I came across articles that accused Rev. Moon, or “father” to me at the time, of homophobia. Such an accusation seemed ludicrous to me. This was the messiah, he is full of love for all mankind… he does not hate homosexuals. He just recognized that they were going against God’s plan in quite an extreme way. I thought the homosexual activists who came across...
December 2011
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There was a sighting at Kim Jong Il's funeral
Among the mourners Saturday was a son of the Rev. Sun Myung Moon, founder of the South Korean-based Unification Church, which has longstanding ties with North Korea. The Rev. Hyung-jin Moon helped carry a wreath to the main mourning site at Kim Il Sung Square in central Pyongyang.
For the full article: http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/story/2011-12-24/north-korea-heir/52205464/1
Hyung Jin...
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Is Cheongpyeong a Principled belief?
Looks like the UC has taken a nose dive into the realm of superstition and it has become main stream belief. The whole Chung Pyung Lake (CPL) experience is stricken with spiritual manipulation and material corruption. I like the idea of cooperation over exorcism. That is the essential CPL - exorcism. So the difference in ideology between CPL and what the principle actually teaches is...
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Joshua Cotter's notes leaked
whatisonthemoon:
Notes of a conference call were leaked. This can’t be good news.
The story goes like this. Hyunjin Moon put out a letter for the public a few days ago and then the likes of Injin Moon and Joshua Cotter tried to come up with their little strategy to deal with him. The notes are actually Injin Moon’s own words according to the last sentence on the notes.
These notes are the real...
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I will not stop speaking
I am one of the former contributors to HowWellDoYouKnowYourMoon. When the site first began gaining momentum, it was an exciting time. There were a good number of us involved giving insights on the flaws in Unification theology, church leadership, and the messiahship of Sun Myung Moon. Most of us were transitioning out of the church, and others had already been uninvolved or cut off from the UC for...
November 2011
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How is it that the man who has fulfilled the ideal...
Why is it that members have one standard of moral behavior and the moon family appear to have a different even lower standard of morality?
On the one hand we are taught the fall of humanity and were told not to fall ourselves - a fate worse than death apparently. So here I am a product of that conditioning. When I look at SMM’s life, I see that it is very different than what is taught in...
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Some questions for your consideration.
Are the rumors about sexual misconduct true?
Please consider several perspectives as follows.
First, that it is okay for Sun Myung Moon to have what appears to the fallen world as illicit sexual conduct because he is authorized to by God to repair the heavenly lineage. Second, that this was a phase in the life cycle of the church which happened and was wrongly covered up by members to protect the...
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Rev Jin Hun Yong on Rev Sun Myung Moon's Life
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PsCl3-qcnk
Speech given by Rev. Jin Hun Yong (Director of UC Education Department and History Compilation Committee in Korea) in leader’s meeting. Rev Jin Hun Yong 1:55-3:15 Q: “Did Father have any sexual relations with any woman other than True Mother, Hee Jin’s Mother, or Sun Jin’s Mother?”
A: “When the first mother, Sun...
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Cosmic Royal Family - really?
I could accept SMM words more easily if it was all some kind of symbolism about being the royal family; sort of like the course for everyone - you know everyone has the potential to be a good (ideal) person, (true) parent, and have the awareness of being valuable like a King or Queen in spirit (or ideal) - and that really turns me off the guy.
Now I think he is saying that he is the top man,...
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How do you know that the root of all problems is...
From the principle perspective the fall of Humanity was caused by illicit sexual relationship. Who defines the standard of morality of what is acceptable or not (that which is illicit). Why do you think that the root of all our problems is a low standard of sexuality. What is the standard. How is it defined and where is it recorded. What is so bad about having sexual relationships before you are...
October 2011
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Book - Change of Blood Lineage through Ritual Sex...
http://www.amazon.ca/Change-Lineage-Through-Ritual-Unification/dp/1439261539
The holy wine ceremony is based on an experience that SMM had with his female spiritual leader in order to have a divine nature. Similar to ancient culture like the Canaanites, and Egyptians, and Korean christian Messianic groups influenced by or assimilated into shamanism. It is a symbolic reenactment of the pigareum...
September 2011
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Remember the ambitious "World Peace King Bridge &...
Remember the WPKB&T, aka the Bering Strait project, originally penned as a bridge between Alaska (of USA, North America) and Siberia (of Russia, Eurasia), not a new idea by any means, but trumpeted by SMM back in ‘05-‘06 as being a way to break down cultural, political and religious boundaries and bring peace between the two of the largest countries in the world?
If you do, you...
“People only see what they are prepared to see.” - Ralph Waldo Emerson
“Only dead fish go with the flow.”
August 2011
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A new book on the sexual rites of the UC
The Blessing of Marriage ceremony of the Unification Church is directly derivative from the pigarum or yongch’e ceremony of Korean messianic groups from the 1920s, 1930s and 1940s. A pigarum ceremony means ‘change of blood lineage’ and a yongch’e ceremony means ‘receiving a new spiritual body’. A male spiritual leader united sexually with his female disciples...
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The Dark Side of True World Foods
On April 11th, 2006, the Chicago Tribune revealed the Moon’s True World Foods supplied most of the 9,000 sushi restaurants in the USA with fish. One member of the Unification Church and former employee of True World Foods goes into detail on how this major company had been abusive to members:
I just read the article about payday at WT. This reminded meow pay day at at True World Foods....
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The New Revolution In Japan
This submission comes from a member of the Unification Church who is aligned with a rising movement behind Senyu Ryuka Sama.
When I met True Parents some twenty-eight years ago, it was the fulfillment of my greatest ideals and dreams. I like many of the beloved brothers and sisters back then were burning with idealism. I was captivated by the ideal and vision of the Divine Principle — the...
Anonymous asked: I am curious on what information you can find for the death of Young Jin Moon in Reno, NV. Was alcohol/drug use involved? motives for suicide? possible murder? ect.
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Jin Sung Moon promotes a Pyramid Scheme
This past weekend Jin Sung Park ( or as he calls himself “In Jin Nim’s Husband” *how modest) came to Los Angeles to tell all the church members about the latest and greatest thing that is saving his life. Vemma! The World’s most powerful antioxidant! I know the church members are poor and need to make money somehow but I cannot believe that church members are so blind as...
July 2011
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Are Sun Myung Moon and "Dae Mo Nim" on the same...
I remember thinking Moon was such a man who truly believed in the liberation of the woman back in the day. I would cling unto a quote where he endorsed women buying shorts and tanktops in order to support this silly conviction I had. The quote was as follows:
“Women who wear just shorts and tank tops save a lot of money in the heat, so it is good from that point of view… We need to...
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Questions Raised over Unification Church's...
Kuchikomi Jul. 25, 2011 - 05:54AM JST ( 5 )
TOKYO —
The Olympic Games are no stranger to influence-peddling scandals and delegate buying in the selection of venues. In December 1998, for example, it was revealed that International Olympic Committee delegates had been on the receiving end of all types of bribes—ranging from Super Bowl tickets to plastic surgery—in order for Salt Lake City to...
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Newspeak Within the UC
This submission comes from wearealone.
I have a challenge to any member who considers themself on the intelligent side of UC membership. How do you justify the small but globally uniform vocabulary available to describe nouns and concepts of the world within the Church? For example, the ONLY common words to describe the actual organization among members are: “the church”, and...
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Moonie money.
Glenn Emery, a former member of the UC who is now a producer for CNN, wrote an essay in 2001 about how he started a payday revolt when he had the audacity to cash his Washington Times paycheck and keep the money. This ran completely counter to the Moon organization’s way of doing things. The WT was built on the backs of unpaid labor. Notice how when confronted with “man’s...
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Steve Hassan's Q&A Video
Steve Hassan talks about the Moon organization 7-2-11 from Steven A Hassan on Vimeo.
Steve Hassan has been a great influence and help for people leaving or have left the Unification Church. He is a licensed mental health and exit counselor and a former member of the Unification Church who spent much time witnessing during his time with it. At one point, he held the position of Assistant...
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Joshua Cotter: Don’t Forget the $700.00 Offering
Oh, the ODP Workshop! Where one half of a double-occupancy room is $650.00 and rooms are $1,300.00 in a town where hotels are as cheap as dirt, and there is a $425 fee to participate in the workshop (without rooming provided and offering mandatory). Money’s no object when it’s other people’s money.
Rev. Joshua Cotter’s ODP Workshop Announcement:
Dear Brothers and Sisters, May the love and...
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What would be the opposite of a "true parent"?
It’s really quite ironic that very little was done to educate the True Children to understand what the members went through and avoid the mistake of arrogant “Abel.” In fact, they were raised in almost the opposite way.
Suppose you were the exact opposite of a “true parent” and you wanted to raise your children in a way that would likely ensure they would be messed up. What would you do?
1. You...
June 2011
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A remark by Moon on homosexuality
June of 1973 at Belvedere
On being asked by Allen Wood, the One World Crusade Commander for Maryland, how we could help our members who suffered from homosexuality, Sun Myung Moon replied, “You tell them if it really becomes a problem to cut it off, barbeque it and send it to me in a shoe box.”
What a compassionate messiah!
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Strange Bedfellows
Louis Farrakhan has been in communion with the Unification Church for quite some time and even organized the “Million Family March” with Sun Myung Moon and it was rumored that he briefly spent time in Cheongpyeong during his cancer treatment. His appearance at a recent event hosted by a UC-funded organization has caused much controversy. The American Clergy Leadership Conference,...
$1.3 Billion from 32,283 Cases against the UC from...
“Since 1987, when the system was first set up to file, there have been a total of 32,283 claims filed that total an astonishing $1,367,170,000 (USD). Yes, that’s over a billion and here’s the kicker. The people of Japan are not known for filling frivolous lawsuits. Many of the UC victims are not likely to step forward to keep from losing face and they fear the wrath of the UC.”
We...
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How Come There's Still People who Believe in It...
What bothers me, and I can’t quite get my head around it is WHY so many people who joined in the 70s and 80s (now elder members of the Unification Church), still believe in these myths of a True Family, a Messiah the True Father, and a True Mother. What will it take to wake people up? The True Children and True grandchildren are a bunch of very rich, indulged children, with serious...
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Kook Jin Moon
Kahr Arms Website
Kook Jin Moon December 19, 2010 (full video) from True Love on Vimeo.
This is the infamous gun company, Kahr Arms, that is funded by the Unification Church. The leader of this weapons business is Kook Jin (Justin) Moon. The video is of him speaking at Lovin’ Life Ministries in New York City. Does Kahr send a message that the UC wants to send? Not only is Kahr Arms a...
Some people may oppose me, but they will go down the drain after a while and end...
– Sun Myung Moon
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Revealing the truth behind the “Heretic and...
This is from JH of the ‘What is Father’s Legacy’ google group. It’s looking pretty bad.
Source: (http://cafe.daum.net/W-CARPKorea/cSkJ/8359)
My personal comments: Hyung Jin Nim, Kook Jin Nim, Peter Kim et al„ you should stop the stupidity you are doing and find a way to talk to Hyun Jin right now. Apologizing to him is a good way to start. Admitting your mistakes might be okay too. You have...
There is no harm in doubt and skepticism, for it is through these that new...
– Richard Feynman
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The finances of the Moons according to Nan Sook...
In Jin likes to talk about how the Manhattan Center was so important to Hyo Jin. Nan Sook Hong’s book, In the Shadow of the Moons, came out in 1998 and caused much controversy among members. Here’s some of the things that Nansook said about the Manhattan Center and the money fleeced from the Japanese:
“Manhattan Center became the fuel that powered Hyo Jin’s moral...
I recently witnessed the Indemnity Stick Ceremony and I wished that I had been...
– Tossa Cromwell
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UPI: Lawsuit could force Rev. Moon to court →
WASHINGTON, May 29 (UPI) — The Rev. Sun Myung Moon, 92, founder of the Unification Church, may have to testify in court as a result of his son Sean Moon’s recent lawsuit.
The Family Federation for World Peace and Unification Church International, an organization associated with Sun Myung Moon and headed by Hyung Jin (Sean) Moon, the youngest son and purported heir of Sun ...
May 2011
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Mrs. Moon Calls Her Family "A Mess"
Rev Jenkins tells reporter, Rev. Moon is a messiah, not the messiah. Read and understand the double talk and double standard. I wonder if Rev Jenkins ever got around to telling the members of the church that one.
Also, on that note, a few years ago, the leaders were at a meeting at East Garden with Rev. Moon. Moon was having a phone conversation with his wife Hak Ja Han via Skype. All the leaders...
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40 Year Members Commemorative Celebration vs....
Not for nothing, but when I compare the party celebrating the members who gave 40 years of sacrificial service, shedding blood, sweat and tears for the holy providence of God to the Las Vegas slot machine fundraiser and Gala last weekend I’m a bit stunned. On the one hand you had members being celebrated for 40 years of giving up everything to serve the messiah and his family, save the...
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Hyun Jin Sells His Father's Hotel
The so-called Fallen Adam, Preston Moon, has sold a number of choice properties entrusted to him, and now he’s selling the Sheraton National Hotel in Virginia. (See below.) Just what is he doing with all this money?
The 417-room Sheraton National Hotel has been sold to a Connecticut-based hotel investment firm. The hotel, located just off of Columbia Pike at 900 S. Orme Street, had been...
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Some More Information on Japan
whatisonthemoon:
Thank you for quoting some of the reports on the UC’s looting of the nation of Japan. Note that some articles quote older figures on this abomination that goes back decades. The most recent swindling totals, through 2010, are as follows. Since 1987, when the system was first set up to file, there have been a total of 32,283 claims filed that total an astonishing...
Anonymous asked: Can you tells us what, if any, the relationship is between HWDYKYM, What is on the Moon, Done with Moon, Exploding the Moon's and any like them I may have missed?
Richly informative, keep up the good work.
Richly informative, keep up the good work.
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Tossa Cromwell & The Indemnity Stick Ceremony
Last year, Tossa Cromwell, an employee of In Jin, had a Tumblr blog at trueparents.tumblr.com that discussed some “controversial” topics on HWDYKYM. He not only showed the merit of our posts, such as the indemnity stick ceremony and Moon’s fornication, but actually justified them. He took down some of the more controversial ones as the blogs picked up more traffic. They must not...
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News on the Unification Church: Corruption from...
It is quite a silly and strange time in the Unification Church.
There is of course the great division and constant conflicts among the most elysian True Children/Family. The conspiracy theories and the apologetics that go around are quite hilarious and mind-blowing. I personally am saddened by the fact that some intelligent people of faith can skew things that are completely nonsensical to seem...
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‘Gaming For World Peace’ - Gambling Seen as New...
Hey CARP’ers, Too Young (Or Too Poor) To Gamble In The UC Vegas Slots Tourney? Then buy shares from those who can. Just agree to keep 20% of the grand prize. This stuff is too good to make up. CARP Announcement Starts Here: Hi Everyone (read through the entire email, trust me, it is worth it!), I hope life is going well! As you may know, there is going to be a slots tournament, followed by True...